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The Self Beyond Itself: An Alternative History of Ethics, the New Brain Sciences, and the Myth of Free Will Kindle Edition

4.5 4.5 out of 5 stars 37 ratings

“Intertwines history, philosophy, and science . . . A powerful challenge to conventional notions of individual responsibility” (Publishers Weekly).
 
Few concepts are more unshakable in our culture than free will, the idea that individuals are fundamentally in control of the decisions they make, good or bad. And yet the latest research about how the brain functions seems to point in the opposite direction . . .
 
In a work of breathtaking intellectual sweep and erudition, Heidi M. Ravven offers a riveting and accessible review of cutting-edge neuroscientific research into the brain’s capacity for decision-making—from “mirror” neurons and “self-mapping” to surprising new understandings of group psychology.
The Self Beyond Itself also introduces readers to a rich, alternative philosophical tradition of ethics, rooted in the writing of Baruch Spinoza, that finds uncanny confirmation in modern science.
 
Illustrating the results of today’s research with real-life examples, taking readers from elementary school classrooms to Nazi concentration camps, Ravven demonstrates that it is possible to build a theory of ethics that doesn’t rely on free will yet still holds both individuals and groups responsible for the decisions that help create a good society.
The Self Beyond Itself is that rare book that injects new ideas into an old debate—and “an important contribution to the development of our thinking about morality” (Washington Independent Review of Books).
 
“An intellectual hand-grenade . . . A magisterial survey of how contemporary neuroscience supports a vision of human morality which puts it squarely on the same plane as other natural phenomena.” —William D. Casebeer, author of
Natural Ethical Facts
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“As she delves deeply into the cognitive, cultural and philosophical sources of moral agency, Ravven takes careful note of the emerging brain sciences. . . .[A] must-read for anyone interested in the breadth and depth of our moral mentality.”
―Jaak Panksepp, Baily Endowed Professor in Animal Well-Being Sciences, Washington State University, and author of
The Archaeology of Mind

“An intellectual hand-grenade,
The Self Beyond Itself is a magisterial survey of how contemporary neuroscience supports a vision of human morality which puts it squarely on the same plane as other natural phenomena. . . . This book will spark fruitful debate and reminds us of the debt we owe Aristotle and Spinoza as we make sense of ourselves as part of the natural world.”
―William D. Casebeer, author of
Natural Ethical Facts

“The most brilliant, original book on ethics in decades. Ravven's immense erudition and sharp critical insights are extraordinary. This is a fascinating book for everyone concerned about education, politics, history, philosophy, religion, and the survival of human society.”
―Susannah Heschel, Eli Black Professor of Jewish Studies, Dartmouth College

“Shatters the many bubbles that contemporary philosophers have built around themselves. Its criticisms of free will are historically grounded and logically cogent; its alternative views of freedom and moral agency, drawing largely on Spinoza, are persuasive and much needed. This book will generate wide discussion in academic fields―and break new paths for society as a whole.”
―John McCumber, professor of Germanic languages, UCLA

“I began reading this book, because I had agreed to; I stayed because it riveted me. Not only is this a brilliant examination of ethical behavior in the light of history, social psychology, brain science, and philosophy, it is a powerful demonstration of what those disciplines are for. A new basis for the instilling of ethical behavior cannot be gainsaid after reading
The Self Beyond Itself.”
―Daniel Boyarin, Taubman Professor of Talmudic Culture, University of California, Berkeley

“Fascinating, accessible, and engaging. . . . Ravven provides an alternative vision of human ethics, initially expressed in the naturalistic philosophy of Spinoza but also well supported by contemporary research in the cognitive sciences.”
―Wendell Wallach, Yale Interdisciplinary Center for Bioethics

“Extraordinarily wide-ranging, fervently argued, and visionary. . . . Ravven's book is an exemplary case of a public philosophy, or the use of different modes of reasoning to broaden political sensibilities and battle provincialism.”
―Jim Wetzel, Augustinian Chair, Villanova University

“A thought-provoking study about the most urgent moral questions.”
―Warren Zev Harvey, professor emeritus, Department of Jewish Thought, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

“A perfect book for thoughtful people who wish they had taken (or wish they had paid attention in) a philosophy class in college. The real-life examples render the ideas very accessible and illustrate how our concepts of 'self' influence everything we do. Make it the gift you give your 'self.'”
―P.H. Longstaff, professor, S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications, Syracuse University

About the Author

Heidi M. Ravven is a professor of religious studies at Hamilton College. A founding member of the Society for Empirical Ethics, she has published widely in interdisciplinary journals and is the co-editor of Jewish Themes in Spinoza's Philosophy. She lives in Cazenovia, New York.

Product details

  • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B00ATL9ZPG
  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ The New Press (September 16, 2014)
  • Publication date ‏ : ‎ September 16, 2014
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • File size ‏ : ‎ 3096 KB
  • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
  • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
  • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
  • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Not Enabled
  • Word Wise ‏ : ‎ Enabled
  • Sticky notes ‏ : ‎ On Kindle Scribe
  • Print length ‏ : ‎ 528 pages
  • Customer Reviews:
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Reviewed in the United States on July 13, 2013
This book ambitiously and directly confronts and attempts to untangle the basic problem of ethical knowledge, i.e. that after millennia of philosophical inquiry and debate, the field of ethics as a subject of philosophical study seems to be more confused than ever. To accomplish her goal of finally bringing some clarity and sense to the subject of ethics, Ravven greatly expands the scope of ethical inquiry to delve into the history of moral education (and its failures) in the American educational tradition, the philosophically problematic concept of "free will" especially as promulgated by Augustine, the competing philosophical traditions exemplified by Maimonides and Spinoza that may present a more realistic and humane view of human moral agency, what modern neuropsychology now knows about how the brain works (and especially how the brain's functioning is constantly being reworked and readjusted as a result of the experiences one has) and the implications of this knowledge for moral agency, and the sociology of group behavior and its crucial implications for the question what exactly the "self" is and how far it extends out into the world. A key theme of the book is that the study of ethics has been handicapped by its traditional (at least in the Latin Christian tradition) association with the philosophical doctrine of "free will." Ravven examines the history of the philosophy of free will in great detail. What emerges is the realization that the doctrine of free will is in fact logically equivalent to the idea that the "self" is a transcendent entity, separate from the body and outside of nature (as in Descartes), and we also see that this is fundamentally a theological position, not a philosophical one! The fact that Western cultures have been dominated by this awkward theological chimera for centuries goes a long way toward explaining why we have had such a difficult time trying to understand the basic principles of why people behave ethically and why they don't. From the studies of group dynamics (including the overwhelming power of conformism) and of the neuroplasticity of the brain/mind, we see that the traditional philosophical notion of the self as a distinct entity is quite unrealistic. What we do know now from modern psychological and sociological research is that what we like to think of as one's "self" (or in general "human nature") is in fact endlessly malleable, a dynamic & fluid thing, a part of nature, always in flux. We now see the self as being distributed, with no fixed limits but subject to the laws of nature, a dynamic process of varying extents, and being inevitably and constantly reshaped, sometimes in the most subtle ways, by everything it experiences. Ravven ends on a hopeful note with an eloquent appeal for a sweeping reappraisal of our traditional approaches to education (and more broadly, our culture in general), that would start with a recognition of the real nature of the human mind as permeable, malleable and as a part of the natural world. We can imagine an approach to education and character development which would emphasize the development of the whole person as an ongoing process of discovery, i.e. the discovery of the ways in which harmony comes about between one's self and the world.

Ravven writes with great clarity and eloquence. Her arguments are very thoroughly thought out and thoroughly explained. The best audience for the book would be intelligent laymen who have an active interest in the topics presented in the book, who read carefully, and who take the time to think about what they read. It is not a passive reading experience. But for an intelligent person who seriously wants to shed a great deal of light on the confusing notion of what "human nature" is, I recommend this book highly.
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Reviewed in the United States on September 7, 2014
Much of the book was very interesting. It seems clear to me that free will is an illusion. And, clearly, from the numerous books I've read on the latest neuroscience, it is difficult to hold onto what are essentially religious beliefs about the mind and the self. Which is why I think Ravven simply drove off the rails in the last couple of hundred pages. It seems to me that she (and those researchers whose work she used to illustrate her point) have gone well beyond "science" and are birthing a kind of secular religion to explain what is likely unexplainable (but not metaphysical). To be succinct, I think she ended up twisting herself and her thesis into a pretzel trying to end in an upbeat tone, more speculation than science.

Still, an important book with a lot of detail by an intelligent writer.
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Reviewed in the United States on June 5, 2013
I've only finished reading the first couple chapters, but I can say this now: The Self Beyond Itself is very well written and very well thought out. Almost any college student should be able to handle it. It takes very complex ideas and makes them understandable. It goes where few have gone before, looking at the underpinnings of Western moral thought and completely rethinking the concepts of free will and ethics. This is a very scholarly book with much evidence to support its radical assertions. I strongly recommend it!
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Reviewed in the United States on February 19, 2020
Excellent blend of science, philosophy, and sociology. The author’s overall argument is very well supported. Lengthy but worth a thorough read!
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Reviewed in the United States on December 27, 2020
Science backed discussions with philosophy. Starts a little slow, very academic diction, but overall carefully executed and thoughtfully organized. This is not 'light reading' for most people, so if you want a popsci book, this isn't it. I liked it, though, and would recommend it to my nerdiest friends.
Reviewed in the United States on July 8, 2013
This book is remarkable in so many ways. It is riveting, thought provoking, and beautifully written, and it has led to any number of fascinating discussions among my friends. Kudos to Dr. Ravven for this much-needed and visionary book.
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Reviewed in the United States on October 19, 2013
Fantastic book. BUT, is it possible that a book so thoroughly researched and documented has no bibliography? I searched everywhere in my Kindle edition and on Amazon's "Look inside the book" feature, but I find no bibliography or list of references.
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Reviewed in the United States on August 22, 2013
I would definitely recommend this book. It pretty well accomplishes it's goal of disarming the notion of "free will" while retaining personal responsibility, but come prepared for a thorough argument and some deep thought.
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